tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post240110891809970562..comments2024-02-20T08:30:06.488-08:00Comments on Old Blue Genes: John Clarke of JamestowneScott Leonardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16113825693501491926noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-28472602728869559532022-11-16T07:11:00.206-08:002022-11-16T07:11:00.206-08:00Recently, through a DNA sample from my male cousin...Recently, through a DNA sample from my male cousin, the DNA matched a John Clarke who was a descendant of the Jamestown settler John Clarke who came on the Mary Margaret 1608 with David Ellys (Ellis). This Clarke family settled near Manakin Town on the James near the Ellises of Tuckahoe. These two families intermarried several times through the 18th and 19th centuries. From Henrico County, VA they migrated to central KY about 1790 and lived there in Fayette, Shelby, and Spencer Counties until they migrated into Southern Indiana. In my branch of the Clark family, they continued to name males with the Ellis name. The Clarke who lived near Manakin Town was named John. He was born in the late 1600s and had a son or grandson, John Clarke, born 1730/5 die 1798 in Shelby Co., KY. His wife was Elizabeth Ellis.<br /><br />I would love to find more information if anyone out there knows about these families and am so glad I came across this site! Jeanne Burke jeannemburke5807@gmail.com Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-60656139788361766352020-05-08T11:14:18.689-07:002020-05-08T11:14:18.689-07:00My wife, whose Va. Clark family I thought was not...My wife, whose Va. Clark family I thought was not related to my New England Clarks, is also descended from Christopher Clark and Micajah Clark of Barbados/Virtginia. Her tree also includes Sally Moorman and Penelope Johnson. The Johnsons would marry into the family years later again and so her maiden name was Johnson. We always believed her Uncle's name, Clark Johnson was just a coincidence. Maybe not. Anyway if Edward is the son of John Clarke, who was killed in 1623 at Jamestown, my sons' uncle could also be their 12th cousin. ha.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03204864573425751166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-65286012522783734512020-05-08T10:57:33.575-07:002020-05-08T10:57:33.575-07:00Terry Clark,Al Clark and Donna. I appreciate you...Terry Clark,Al Clark and Donna. I appreciate your information on John Clark the Mayflower pilot, his son Thomas Clark of Plymouth(arrived 1623) and the descendants of Edward Clark of Virginia. I am descended from Joseph Clark of Braintree who some say could be the grandson of Thomas who lived to be 98. Only recently we have realized that my wife's Virginia Clark's could be related to my New England Clarks thru John Clark the Mayflower pilot. Her family traces themselves to John Clarke, Edward Clark, Michael Clark, Micajah Clark, and Christopher Clark. etc. in Va. and Barbados. Her family is also married into the Moorman family from the Isle of Wight and her maiden name was Johnson. Is seems to me there is a strong connection between many of the New England Clarks and Virginia Clarks which I never knew existed. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03204864573425751166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-42658280606716416822020-04-13T12:56:36.679-07:002020-04-13T12:56:36.679-07:00Terry, Have you come up with anything new about J...Terry, Have you come up with anything new about John Clarke the Mayflower pilot and Thomas Clarke the Plymouth Colony settler? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-55603256111089782512020-02-26T12:45:02.252-08:002020-02-26T12:45:02.252-08:00A little possible (probable) historical informatio...A little possible (probable) historical information on Margaret Clarke. She was the daughter of John Clarke, grandson of Thomas Clarke, born is somewhere between 1705 and 1710. she is recorded in the original Clarke genealogy that can be accessed on line at https://archive.org/details/recordsofsomeofd1869clar3/page/14/mode/2up. My grandfather (Scott Lee Clark had an original copy of this book but it was lost in a fire in 1957.Al Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03680304923515844984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-42705936890337739202020-02-26T12:28:05.351-08:002020-02-26T12:28:05.351-08:00Additional information on John. He returned to Jam...Additional information on John. He returned to Jamestown in 1623 to claim his shares but died shortly after.Al Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03680304923515844984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-3497721532728080772020-02-26T12:23:51.052-08:002020-02-26T12:23:51.052-08:00According to various 1600s writings, Thomas Clark ...According to various 1600s writings, Thomas Clark was the pilot or first mate on the mayflower. This has been argued over for many years. The current narrative is that John Clarke was the actual pilot of the ship, but two different accounts for Thomas exist. The first is that Thomas was the son of John and the second is that he was the brother. There is considerable documentation that he actually was the brother of John. As an aside, Plymouth wasn't the first time these 2 came to our shores. Some ancient accounts put John on a ship visiting Jamestown in 1608 and both of them returning in 1611 with supplies for the colony. John had several adventures and was awarded 2 shares in the colony after that trip. Both of them where on the Mayflower with the pilgrims. Both returned to England but Thomas came back in 1623 to set up shop as a merchant. He had a very colorful life, which is well documented, and when the average lifespan of a man then was about 40 he finally passed at 97 years old. He is buried in a place of honor on top of the hill in the old graveyard behind the Mayflower Societies building in Plymouth. There are many published pictures of his gravestone on the internet. It states he was first mate (or pilot) on the Mayflower but that is claimed to be because his family used a little white lie when the stone was created in about 1700. He is also credited with founding both Harwich and Eastham towns on Cape Cod Al Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03680304923515844984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-82440895759897769122020-02-26T12:22:57.086-08:002020-02-26T12:22:57.086-08:00According to various 1600s writings, Thomas Clark ...According to various 1600s writings, Thomas Clark was the pilot or first mate on the mayflower. This has been argued over for many years. The current narrative is that John Clarke was the actual pilot of the ship, but two different accounts for Thomas exist. The first is that Thomas was the son of John and the second is that he was the brother. There is considerable documentation that he actually was the brother of John. As an aside, Plymouth wasn't the first time these 2 came to our shores. Some ancient accounts put John on a ship visiting Jamestown in 1608 and both of them returning in 1611 with supplies for the colony. John had several adventures and was awarded 2 shares in the colony after that trip. Both of them where on the Mayflower with the pilgrims. Both returned to England but Thomas came back in 1623 to set up shop as a merchant. He had a very colorful life, which is well documented, and when the average lifespan of a man then was about 40 he finally passed at 97 years old. He is buried in a place of honor on top of the hill in the old graveyard behind the Mayflower Societies building in Plymouth. There are many published pictures of his gravestone on the internet. It states he was first mate (or pilot) on the Mayflower but that is claimed to be because his family used a little white lie when the stone was created in about 1700. He is also credited with founding both Harwich and Eastham towns on Cape Cod Al Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03680304923515844984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-72511749748796819582019-08-26T12:34:25.979-07:002019-08-26T12:34:25.979-07:00If John Clark the Navigator left England aboard th...If John Clark the Navigator left England aboard the ship Providence (stories differ on his duties. Some say Sailing Master, some say he was then Ships Captain) in April 1623, he would not arrive until late May or June. That was when various groups of men were venturing out of Jamestown to attack ( counter attack) the Indian Tribes in the area. So he could have died from involvement in that activity, or just died from one of the other 1,000 things that killed folks back then. Edward the Planter, was one of his children and after visiting Virginia Edward went back to the UK and had his Virginia ( and possibly Barbados) properties managed for him. I directly descend from Militia Capt Christopher Clark of Virginia whom is often thought to be descended from John Clark the Navigator. .....Alexander ClarkFloat Pilothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09727629164920557372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-59129211260483428382019-01-20T04:14:24.725-08:002019-01-20T04:14:24.725-08:00PS Margaret Clarke's married name was Margaret...PS Margaret Clarke's married name was Margaret Caracciolo di Castagneto. She died in 1955. Was an important figure during the italian anti-fascist resistance movement alongside her husband Filippo. Marellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919072819170399086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-55372506244263458162019-01-20T04:12:37.871-08:002019-01-20T04:12:37.871-08:00Hello my Nane is Marella Caracciolo di Castagneto ...Hello my Nane is Marella Caracciolo di Castagneto and I am looking into the biography of my american grandmother Margaret Clarke, who was the daughter of Chalres Clarke who owned Clarke Brother's Whisky distilleries in Peoria, Illinois, and was also Mayor of that town in the late 19thC. I was always told that Margaret Clarke's ancestor arrived in Plymouth on the Mayflower and now I am finding all this fascinating history here through you. I presume she is a descendant of Thomas Clarke too. I am very interested in acquiring the bpook. My email is marella.chia@gmail.com Thank you very much for your research. Kind regards, all best from Rome, MarellaMarellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919072819170399086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-70974745732651680292019-01-17T13:24:56.300-08:002019-01-17T13:24:56.300-08:00According to Ancestry.com, John Clarke is my 11th ...According to Ancestry.com, John Clarke is my 11th great uncle. His father was William Clark my 11th maternal great grand father. Amazing story of John's lif and times..davedarlingredwing@hotmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03899183634490686052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-28177992436137346072018-11-08T19:59:52.987-08:002018-11-08T19:59:52.987-08:00John is my 13 times great grandfather!! John is my 13 times great grandfather!! Geminihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11355680106589260700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-56632035081440836662018-09-17T12:46:23.704-07:002018-09-17T12:46:23.704-07:00John's grave memorial has Edward linked as his...John's grave memorial has Edward linked as his son, for what it is worth. Might want to check with memorial owner on their source.<br />https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/51239756/john-clarkScott Leonardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16113825693501491926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-72693684624372155102018-09-12T16:15:29.593-07:002018-09-12T16:15:29.593-07:00Can anyone source Edward as John's son? I beli...Can anyone source Edward as John's son? I believe there is a good likelihood that the Ancient Farmer Edward, and Edward Clarke who died in Thriplow, are not the same person. I can trace my roots to Michael in Barbados, but I can't source anything earlier. I'm trying to join the Jamestowne Society, but I'm one generation away from proof.Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10619118379455903981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-15632739769372987932018-08-10T07:04:42.163-07:002018-08-10T07:04:42.163-07:00You mentioned above that "It is believed that...You mentioned above that "It is believed that Thomas Clarke, who came over on the 1623 ship Anne, just three years after the Mayflower, was son to John. This is only supported by baptismal records showing that Thomas' father was named John.<br />My Clarke male family has done the appropriate DNA testing on this line, and as of June 2018, the current Haplogroup Name we've been tagged with is I-PH2591, which has been the official FTDNA Group aligned with this ancestry."<br /><br />I am descended from Thomas Clarke. How safely can I then claim to be also descended from John Clarke? Does this DNA finding clinch the deal, or is it still somewhat speculative to say that Thomas was John's son? <br /><br />Thank you!Maggie Jensen Milkovichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11029987639645115733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-67218227697649533822018-08-10T07:00:40.139-07:002018-08-10T07:00:40.139-07:00I would be interested in the book... am sending yo...I would be interested in the book... am sending you an email.Maggie Jensen Milkovichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11029987639645115733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-9611990817820511082018-07-02T04:14:36.930-07:002018-07-02T04:14:36.930-07:00Thanks for this very thorough record of a very int...Thanks for this very thorough record of a very interesting man. I believe I am a descendant of the Thomas Clarke who came to Plymouth on the Anne in 1623. The tradition that he was the actual pilot of the Mayflower seems to have been fabricated later in his life, or immediately after his death by his sons. Several references to it are made by later Clarks in Connecticut. My I2b2, P217+, L39+ Positive haplagroup testing matches very closely to Thomas Clark b. 1500, d. 1551, who may have been John Clarke's grandfather. A close DNA connection is also made to Michael Clarke of Barbados, who's father was Edward Clarke - probably the son of John who is known as a planter of Jamestown, and brother to Thomas. Thomas's sons were whalers at Cape Cod, which strengthens a possible link to John Clarke. I hope my journey doesn't end before I can unravel this tale.<br /><br />Terry Clark<br />Keene, NHtmclarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02756729398608995572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-55069873754430093632017-06-29T12:56:41.953-07:002017-06-29T12:56:41.953-07:00mine too :) -ccp, south carolina by way of kentuck...mine too :) -ccp, south carolina by way of kentuckyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-37483798380245880332016-08-03T05:49:58.047-07:002016-08-03T05:49:58.047-07:00I acquired recently a book by Jean Ingelow written...I acquired recently a book by Jean Ingelow written in 1884 called the birthday book it is filled with names information history of Thomas Clarke it says he came to Plymouth in 1623 on the brig Anne. deacon 40 yrs died 1697. also inside book a photo taken in 1880 of a young girl Elizabeth A, Childs born 1875 died 1890<br />filled with priceless history births and deaths follows Thomas Clarke family tree from 1623 into the 1900's, if you have any interest in acquiring this book e-mail me : ez182130@msn.com Ezra Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-24045590055267556882015-12-02T10:43:17.141-08:002015-12-02T10:43:17.141-08:00He is my 12th great grandfather :) He is my 12th great grandfather :) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5283225970813159623.post-63299514240955836712015-11-26T15:14:42.400-08:002015-11-26T15:14:42.400-08:00Thank you for this information. Greetings from yo...Thank you for this information. Greetings from your distant cousin - John is my 10th great-grandfather as well. I am looking forward to looking through the rest of your site. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com